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From: mike@highlite.gotham.COM (Mike Wiik)
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Subject: Mailing List DOA?
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 92 22:02:49 EST
Cc: mike@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Wiik)
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Is the CAMC mailing list dead?

Seriously, I was preparing another long reply to various points but
was waiting to see what other mail came in. At the moment, I'm not in
a hurry, though I am f*cking busy at work, etc.

I have 2 brief comments, (I may be replying to something on the
cybermove newsgroup pliz forgive me...)

1)	Land Ownership

I'm not sure this is as important as Bill seems to think. Space
is important; imho it might be better to try to set up something
in a developed area (such as leasing a block of townhouses for 10
years BEFORE they are built: this should allow a slight redesign
for inner doorways between the houses,etc). I'd like to be a part
of a high-tech community, I'm not so sure I wanna dig sewer drains
on farmland somewhere back of beyond.

2)	Practical People

Either here or in Alt.cyberpunk.movement, Bill (I think(?)) mentioned
the need for practical people to start something like this. Imho,
practical people buy a SFH, raise 2.2 kids, get born, get schooled,
work, retire, die. The cycle repeats. What I wanna do is escape the
cycle. So I guess I'm impractical, by my own definition...

I.e., it's gonna be real difficult. Working it out involves getting
different people to work together not all of whom are going to be
practical or hardworking or have lots of money. Maybe we could 
examine some really difficult problems and see how they might be
resolved. I've lived in group houses before: there were lots of
problems. Back then I made about $150 a week and paid $80 a month
in rent. In many ways, I was happier then than now. Somewhere
Nietzche (sp?) writes that nobody ever judged the strength of a
country by the number of "parasites" it could contain...but it sounds
like a good measurement to me...

	-Mike

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