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(I hope this is the new, improved list address -- if not, please fwd.)

Yes, after a long self-imposed hiatus, I'm back, and still looking for
just the right sandwich.  I have spent nearly two years cranking out
an arcade game for Atari, and have managed to keep some of the money even
though CA is blindingly expensive.  Therefore, I'm starting to seriously
think about my future, which I don't want to spend too much more of in 
Silicon Valley whoring my talent for poor management.

I was talking on the phone with a friend of mine (located far away) about
future plans, and mentioned an idea that has been tossed around in various
forms on this list.

He and several other people are forming a corporation in order to write
a computer application.  I have my own desires to gather several people
in order to write a computer game.  In any area with computer professionals,
there will be a need for equipment and net.feeds.  Contracting out maintains
independence, but at the cost of sitting at home all the time and having
to spend a lot on these things.

I brought up the idea of a computing co-op.  We would not all be part of the
same corporation, working on the same project, etc., but since we all will
need stuff like workstations and net.connectivity, and it is just plain fun
to be able to interact with people who are also doing neat stuff, a physical
center would be excellent.  Jim, being a co-op veteran like me, loved the
idea.

Since it would be non-profit etc., rent would be based on cost rather than
profit, and likely be much lower than otherwise.  Since it doesn't need to
be in the center of everything (because we're net.connected), it doesn't have
to be in the most expensive place, i.e. Silicon Valley.

Since I'm flexible, it could be a whole huge building with living space, 
even, for those who wanted.  It could have a restaurant downstairs, or any
number of other businesses, or just be a fun place to hang out.  Additional
money and interest could be gained if it had a large SPAZ/performance 
space.

Such a place would be an ideal tentacle of the Cat (what an image!) because
it could bring in money to finance land expansion, startup costs, and
whizzy toys.

Anyone else make money with computers?  Austin TX seems tempting (major high-
tech presence, no state tax, ...) but may already be too expensive.

Don't forget the possibility of (if you're near a large urban area) 
making the odd bit of cash by holding raves at your rural 'stead.  If
publicized to the proper people they can be a lot of fun -- I went to one
up near Willits, CA on a solar-powered retreat way up some dirt road in the
mountains.  The people who owned the land were paid about $1K for it, and
everyone had a great time.

// g




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	   angst+@cmu.edu    carnegie mellon     everything is
	   jon slenk          pittsburgh pa         disclaimed

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