Return-path:X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 9474;andrew.cmu.edu;Jon C. Slenk Received: from conrad.res.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for corporations-ate-my-cat+@andrew.cmu.edu (->angst+camc@cmu.edu) ID ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 18:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: via niftymail; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 18:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: "Jon C. Slenk" Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 18:29:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jon C. Slenk" Subject: Fwd: New! Improved! 10% Real Juices! To: corporations-ate-my-cat Mailing List References: <199407170926.CAA01829@agames.agames.com> Message-ID: <774484156.287.0@conrad.res.andrew.cmu.edu> ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (CMU1.ACS.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.186]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA25940 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:27:10 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id FAA28933 for js9b+@andrew.cmu.edu; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:27:09 -0400 Received: via localmail; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uumail1.netcom.com [163.179.3.50]) by cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA28929 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:27:07 -0400 Received: from agames.agames.com by netcomsv.netcom.com with ESMTP (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id CAA12338; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 02:27:25 -0700 From: grigsby@agames.com (JUMP IN THE FIRE) Message-Id: <199407170926.CAA01829@agames.agames.com> Received: from epikt.agames.com by agames.agames.com (8.6.9/3.14+gl) id CAA01829; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 02:26:45 -0700 Received: by epikt.agames.com (8.6.9/3.14+gl) id CAA23063; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 02:27:00 -0700 Subject: New! Improved! 10% Real Juices! To: angst+camc@cmu.edu Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 02:26:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Bill Eichman" at Jul 2, 94 08:55:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2743 (I hope this is the new, improved list address -- if not, please fwd.) Yes, after a long self-imposed hiatus, I'm back, and still looking for just the right sandwich. I have spent nearly two years cranking out an arcade game for Atari, and have managed to keep some of the money even though CA is blindingly expensive. Therefore, I'm starting to seriously think about my future, which I don't want to spend too much more of in Silicon Valley whoring my talent for poor management. I was talking on the phone with a friend of mine (located far away) about future plans, and mentioned an idea that has been tossed around in various forms on this list. He and several other people are forming a corporation in order to write a computer application. I have my own desires to gather several people in order to write a computer game. In any area with computer professionals, there will be a need for equipment and net.feeds. Contracting out maintains independence, but at the cost of sitting at home all the time and having to spend a lot on these things. I brought up the idea of a computing co-op. We would not all be part of the same corporation, working on the same project, etc., but since we all will need stuff like workstations and net.connectivity, and it is just plain fun to be able to interact with people who are also doing neat stuff, a physical center would be excellent. Jim, being a co-op veteran like me, loved the idea. Since it would be non-profit etc., rent would be based on cost rather than profit, and likely be much lower than otherwise. Since it doesn't need to be in the center of everything (because we're net.connected), it doesn't have to be in the most expensive place, i.e. Silicon Valley. Since I'm flexible, it could be a whole huge building with living space, even, for those who wanted. It could have a restaurant downstairs, or any number of other businesses, or just be a fun place to hang out. Additional money and interest could be gained if it had a large SPAZ/performance space. Such a place would be an ideal tentacle of the Cat (what an image!) because it could bring in money to finance land expansion, startup costs, and whizzy toys. Anyone else make money with computers? Austin TX seems tempting (major high- tech presence, no state tax, ...) but may already be too expensive. Don't forget the possibility of (if you're near a large urban area) making the odd bit of cash by holding raves at your rural 'stead. If publicized to the proper people they can be a lot of fun -- I went to one up near Willits, CA on a solar-powered retreat way up some dirt road in the mountains. The people who owned the land were paid about $1K for it, and everyone had a great time. // g ---------------+--------------------+-------------- angst+@cmu.edu carnegie mellon everything is jon slenk pittsburgh pa disclaimed prev message next message